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Romanosky Automotive Weekly Gazette #47

Karl Benz (left) and Gottlieb Daimler (right)

Great German Engineers Explained

More than anything else, I've written about Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and Jaguar. There is an interesting thread that links these brands together if you go back far enough. This explains why we have Daimler-Benz (aka Mercedes) that are being sold today, as well as the British Daimlers that were favoured by Royalty, and the Austo-Daimler for which Ferdinand Porsche Sr. is associated. Also, there is a Canadian connection. 


Below is a brief description of the tapestry that weaves the most influential early automotive engineers and corporations together. Following this is highly subjective summary of some interesting local on-line auctions for Mercedes-Benz that are now on Bring-A-Trailer. 



Daimler Motors (Stuttgart, Germany)


Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach worked with Nikolaus Otto, who invented in the 4-stroke engine in 1861. Otto was only interested in the combustion engine for stationary applications, replacing steam power, which led to a falling out and firing of Daimler, and the resignation of Maybach.


Gottlieb Daimler was more interested in the combustion engine to power vehicles and invented the high-speed, petroleum liquid-fueled internal combustion engine. He constructed his first 'horseless carriage' in 1886. The Daimler Motors Corporation (DMC) was established near Stuttgart in 1890 with Wilhelm Maybach as a partner. 


Emil Jellinek


Emil Jellinek was a well-connected businessman who commissioned what many consider to be the first modern automobile from Daimler in 1900 - the 35hp 'Mercedes'. He named car after his daughter. 


Benz & Cie. (Mannheim, Germany)


Working sixty miles away from Daimler in Mannheim, Karl Benz was credited with creating the first production automobile - the Benz Patent-Motorwagen. Benz received a patent in 1886, the same year as Daimler's combustion engine conversion of a stage coach.


Benz & Cie and DMC were competitors who had skirmishes regarding patents in the early 1900's. When economic conditions in Germany worsened dramatically in the 1920's due to hyperinflation, the companies were forced to merge. Daimler-Benz was created in 1926, at which point the first cars to be named Mercedes-Benz were sold. 


Austro-Daimler (Graz, Austria)


In 1896, DMC created a subsidiary in Austria - the Austro-Daimler Corporation. It was first led by Gottlieb's son Paul, and then by Ferdinand Porsche Sr. who was the Technical Director from 1906 to 1923. Porsche left Austro Daimler for DMC, taking his chief test driver, Alfred Neubauer, with him. Neubauer would famously go on to run the Mercedes-Benz racing department. Porsche went from DMC, back to Austria to join Steyr, and then to Stuttgart to start his independent design office in 1931. 


In 1906 Emil Jellinek also commissioned a smaller car - this time from Dr. Porsche. It was to be called the Maja, named after his other daughter. This was Porsche's first non-electrified car, with a combustion engine of his own design. Sadly for Maja, the car had significant teething problems which led to the demise of the name. 


Austro Daimler became part of the Austrian conglomerate Steyr-Daimler-Puch that designed the first Mercedes 4-Matic AWD powertrain, built the Mercedes G-Wagon as well as the Haflinger and Pinzgaur military vehicles. The passenger car operations of Steyr-Daimler-Puch were sold to the Canadian company Magna. Magna-Steyr builds 200,000 complete vehicles annually for Mercedes-Benz (G Wagon), BMW (5 Series, Z4), Jaguar (I-Pace, E-Pace) Toyota (Supra) and others. Fisker has contracted the entire production and design of their Ocean EV to Magna. 


The first cars that Ferdinand Porsche designed were electric and electric-gas hybrids for the Austrian Lohner company. Porsche's 'Mixte' hybrid system was later licensed by Daimler. Lohner was later bought out by the Austrian engine maker Rotax, who was later purchased by Bombardier - also Canadian owned.


Daimler Motor Company (Coventry, England)


Daimler sold the rights to use its name to an English company, The Daimler Motor Company, in 1896. This company was purchased by the British Small Arms Company (BSA) in 1910. Pre WWII, BSA made automobiles and motorcycles, dropping the cars after the war. Daimler was sold to Jaguar in 1960. Jaguar branded a Daimler version of their 60's Mk II sports sedan with a 2.5L V8 Daimler engine. Later, Daimler badged Jaguar XJ sedans were sold under the Daimler Sovereign nameplate. The Daimler name is now part of the JLR group, owned by Tata.


So there you go: Otto, Daimler, Maybach, Benz, Jellinek, Porsche and Neubauer explained - at least a little bit. As Canadians, we can be proud that some of this DNA is in the hands of Canadian companies!

Now, here are some LOCAL On-Line Mercedes-Benz Offerings from Bring-A-Trailer.

1999 Mercedes-Benz CL600 in Calgary

ends Sunday May 1st at 12:17pm


They didn't sell many of these C140 S-Class Coupes; one because they cost as much as a house, and two because they really can't be described as pretty. Not in any way, shape, or form inexpensive to run; the W140 Sedans and C140 Coupes never the less have their charms. Especially at 10% of their new car MRSP. Make sure the AC works - a leaking AC evaporator is a 50 hour job to replace. Multiply that by $160 per hour and add parts... Also, MB's of this vintage have engine wiring harnesses which can disintegrate. I once quoted my friends dad $7k for a new harness 2 months after he bought the car from me - Ouch! 


Expect this car to bring $20k-$30k USD. You will be bidding against some dealers who will likely export it and look for a larger market.

1972 Mercedes-Benz 350SL in Blaine, WA

120,000 miles

Ends Monday, May 2nd at 3:00pm


Conventional R107 wisdom is to look for the latest 560sl from 1986-1989, but I like these early cars. The first year in North America (1972) was badged the 350SL despite having a 4.5L engine. The '72's and '73's had the slim chrome bumpers. The 3 sp. auto and heavier iron-block engine make the car more sluggish than later 560s which feel much crisper. That said, the smaller bumpers and hubcaps give this car a period charm which I prefer. I also prefer paying half the price of a 560sl. 


Expect this one to end somewhere in the $20k's. Assume that it needs $10k to sort it out unless you can be convinced otherwise - that is what every 70's or 80's MB has cost me...


Being more than 25 years old, there is no 6.1% duty to bring it into Canada. Noted MB seller, SilverArrows, sends cars back and forth between Blaine WA, and Victoria frequently. Costs to bring it back to Canada should be limited to $1000 or so, not including GST. 

1954 Mercedes-Benz 300b 'Adenauer' in Vancouver

Ending Friday, May 6th, 12:50pm


This is $300k away from being a $100,000 car, which may not make any sense to most people. But to me this car cries out for a proper restoration as a matter of preserving history. It looks extremely original and not too rusty, though I would expect to find some dead critters inside. 


Amazingly this was the base for the MB Gullwing. In 1952 the MB supervisory board decided that they should re-enter competition and gave the directive to the competition manager, Rudolf Uhlenhaut, to develop a racing car based on the 300 series mechanical platform. Uhlenhaut had previously sketched out the idea of a small-diameter space frame design which he adapted to the 300 series engine by canting it over 50 degrees to allow for minimal frontal area and a favourable drag coefficient.


Mercedes competition manager Alfred Neubauer had reservations about the design, voicing that the car would unlikely be competitive against the pure racing cars being developed by Ferrari and Jaguar, and that the car needed a racing engine, better brakes, larger tires and a 5-speed gearbox. Uhlenhaut responded that the factory did not have the resources to make a purpose-built racing car, and that off-the-shelf 300 components must be used. MB did rather well with them.


If you have the space and not inconsiderable skills and patience, this could wind up being a very worthwhile project. If you donate your time, and do a good job, you would probably get your money back out. If you are looking for a project, this could give you something to do evening and weekends - for the rest of your life.



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FOR SALE

2008 Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster Sportshift.


Bought at Desert European in Scottdale, AZ and imported to Canada when new (this was before there was an Aston dealer in Calgary). 92,000km Including Aston Dealer major service, One owner. Can't be reasonably faulted for year and mileage.


$60,000

1986 JAGUAR XJ-SC CABRIOLET


"One of the few Classic Car Bargains in today's heated market: 2 owner Western Canadian car, fully serviced"


Antelope Metallic (AFM) on Doeskin Leather, bought new in Winnipeg, 2 owners, 93k mileage. $14k+ in recent bills including engine-out major service ($8.5k), fuel system ($2k), new V-rated Vredestein Sprint Tires ($1,800), plus cosmetics. Now everything works and nothing leaks!


$CDN 20,000

1961 Land Rover S2A 88" Soft Top

Greensand on Black, Khaki canvas 'tilt', restoration to 'concours' standards. Substantial amount of NOS parts, with every mechanical component completely rebuilt by XJ Automotive Service.


$CDN 100,000


Final Assembly in Progress at www.lugnutz.ca

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