Dr Lawrence Peltz, is the director of the Bournewood-Caulfield Center in Woburn MA. His new book, The Mindful Path to Addiction Recovery: A Practical Guide to Regaining Control over your life has been recently published by Shambala Publications Inc.
I interviewed Dr. Peltz at his office. We spoke of his path to mindfulness and psychotherapy and his work with addiction recovery.
Barbara: What drew you to psychotherapy, mindfulness and the intersection of them both?
Larry: I was a psychologist when I was urged by my mother to become a psychiatrist. I was doing some mind/body research in biochemistry. I liked psychiatry but wasn't emotionally ready to be a therapist. I was struggling with some things including the loss of my mother while in school, so I chose a "heady" subject of study in neurology. I started in neurology in Boston We'd be on rounds and while it was fascinating I would find myself looking at the OTs and PTs who were working directly with the patients and wanting that. I realized neurology was not for me.
Barbara: You wanted to work directly with the people.
Larry: Yes. So I left after a year and started working in emergency rooms. Through my experience in those clinics, I would find myself talking with and advising patients while I treated their physical wounds and realized I wanted to be in that role with them.
Barbara: So we see the psychotherapy part. What about the mindfulness part?
Larry: I first heard the dharma on the radio. It was in 1979 in Brookline. WBUR would play Alan Watts lectures. Psychology was fascinating but then here was this person, talking about a much deeper notion of possibilities. My girlfriend, now wife, began doing some chanting while I was traveling. When I returned I started chanting as well. I found it very powerful in helping with focusing my mind.
In 1985, CIMC opened and I started going there regularly. I began to trust my experience of the practice. It was a long time before I realized that I could let go of trying to control my thoughts and follow my breath. One time I said to a teacher at CIMC "but my thoughts are so interesting" and he said "I doubt they would be interesting to me".
Barbara: That was an interesting intervention!
Larry: Yeah, but I resonated with him and it was helpful. I worked at Somerville mental health and was the medical director of the methadone program at Cambridge Hospital. We started integrating psychodynamic theory into addiction work. I was also in therapy myself. Psychotherapy was much more powerful in learning than supervision. I could see that I had similar issues to my clients and I could know it from the inside. And I now have a much easier time staying with clients in the session. I don't "drift away" as much.
Barbara: So your mindfulness practice helps you to be more embodied, more present.
Larry: Yes, but also, the client gets inducted into it with some simple directions. I ask them if they're willing to try something, then ask them to notice their feet on the ground, their butt in the chair, their arms at their sides. I ask them to direct their attention, and invariably they go inside.
Barbara: so you present in very "matter of factly"
Larry: Yes. We see folks who are reactive, acting badly and then blaming themselves for it and this helps just to soften it a little. Some of them become meditators and some don't. We see them making use of these skills.
Barbara: Informally.
Larry: Informally. We teach mindfulness simply. We say "we want you to live now," to notice the little things. We want you to notice simple moments so you don't have to go for a "big score". Sex, drugs, shopping, gambling etc., because there's so much more pleasure and interest in your life moment to moment. In groups I teach on the 5 obstacles to a clear mind and an open heart and ask everyone to name their "hindrance of choice" or we'll go around and have everyone name an experience/feeling and do a "making space" exercise. Can they allow or accept this experience?
Barbara: Lots of simple, experiential exercises.
Larry: We've had some good outcomes with this.
Barbara: Where else do you see exciting work going on in the intersection of mindfulness and psychotherapy?
Larry: There's very creative work going on at UMASS and The Barre Center for Buddhist Studies. CIMC is working to offer a deepening of practice with the experienced clinicians group and the IMP with their new book is making it all so very accessible. I think that's exciting and generous.
Barbara: Thank you for your time Dr. Peltz.